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17 Best & Worst Ways to Use Your Amex Points in 2022

American Express Membership Rewards points are some of the best rewards you can earn because they're flexible - you can use them for travel, gift cards, or statement credits, among other things.

Amex cards that earn Membership Rewards include:

  • The Platinum Card® from American Express
  • The Business Platinum Card® from American Express
  • The American Express® Gold Card
  • American Express® Business Gold Card
  • American Express® Green Card 
  •  Business Green Rewards Card from American Express
  • The Blue Business® Plus Credit Card from American Express

Each card offers a unique set of bonuses and benefits depending on how you spend and travel.

While Amex's rewards program has a lot of flexibility, that doesn't mean all redemption options get the same cents per point value.

This post will cover some of the best and worst ways to use your Amex points. The data points here are calculated from the American Express Rewards calculator: http://global.americanexpress.com/rewards/calculator 

The Worst Ways to Redeem Your Amex Membership Rewards

Let's start with the worst ways to use your Amex points.

1. Shop With Points

Amex has a shopping portal with many products you can buy with Membership Rewards points. While this is a versatile way to use your points, it doesn't have a high redemption value.

For 10,000 points, you'll only get a value of 0.5 CPP— which is not the best value for Amex points.

If you're set on using points for merchandise, you might be better off buying a gift card or going through a shopping partner like Amazon.

2. Transferring Points to Partners

Amex has a ton of airline transfer partners that you can transfer your points straight to. 

Most partners offer a 1-to-1 transfer rate, so if you transfer 1,000 points to them, they will give you 1,000 points back. Sometimes, American Express runs promotions for transfer partners where you can get a better rate.

One thing to keep in mind here is the Excise Tax Offset Fee.

In most cases, American Express charges an excise fee of 0.06 cents per point (capped at $99 for any single transfer) when you transfer points to U.S. airlines with a card such as The Platinum Card®. 

American Express's U.S. airline partners that charge an excise fee include:

  • Delta
  • JetBlue
  • Hawaiian

On a 100,000-point transfer, that fee equates to $60. In addition to these charges, the airline may also charge taxes and fees.

However, not all partners charge this fee. Some of the airline programs where you can transfer Membership Rewards points without paying any fees include:

  • Are Lingus Aeroclub
  • Aeromexico Club Premier
  • Air Canada Aeroplan
  • Air France / KLM Flying Blue
  • ANA Mileage Club
  • Cathay Pacific Asia Miles
  • Avianca LifeMiles
  • British Airways Executive Club
  • Emirates Skywards
  • Etihad Guest Miles
  • Iberia Plus Miles
  • Qantas Frequent Flyer
  • Singapore KrisFlyer Miles
  • Virgin Atlantic Flying Club

Since these are points from airlines outside the United States, American Express won't charge you the Excise Tax Offset fee to transfer points into these programs, although you need to evaluate their value (Note: some of them are hard to redeem points from). Transferring points to their hotel partners will also be free of charge.

Unfortunately, the only way to transfer points to your Delta SkyMiles account is through AMEX, so be prepared to pay the fee to utilize them.

To get the best redemption rates, you need to do a lot of research before you transfer your points.

3. Redeeming for Statement Credit

If you don't want to pay your card bill, you can redeem your points for statement credits, effectively wiping out any purchases you made with the card. While this option is handy, it also isn't recommended.

However, if you're in a pinch, this can help.

It's best used as a last resort if you need some last-minute funds to cover your balance. But each point will only be worth 0.6 CPP. So the low value makes it not a great option.

We'll talk about other setups later in this post if you're after cash.

4. Donate Your Points to Charity

With JustGiving, you can donate your points to over 1.5 million charities. Unless you can redeem your points for travel, you'll likely get no more than 0.7 cents per point from this redemption option.

The points aren't the greatest value for your money, but if you don't need your points, this is a decent option.

Beware of the value change, though. Depending on the organization, the value of your points may vary, so pay attention.

Doing the math can help you make a bigger impact.

5. Booking Travel via AmexTravel.com

With American Express Travel, you can book all kinds of travel, including hotels, vacation packages, and cruises.

If you book travel through the American Express Travel portal (excluding airfare), you will only earn 0.7 CPP. In addition, considering other companies will give you 1 CPP, booking your travel using the Amex Travel portal may not be the best way to spend your Amex points.

Keep in mind that using the Amex Travel Portal is NOT the same as using a transfer partner.

6. Merchandise

Similar to option 1, you can use your points to spend with certain merchants.

The cents per point come out to 0.7 mostly, except for NYC Taxis and Ticketmaster.com. Those have different point-to-cent ratios, so check the redemption rate before redeeming, as redemption rates may vary from retailer to retailer.

You also need to be careful because some platforms like Amazon can automatically fill in that you're using M.R. points when you check out.

If you want to use your points for shopping, there are probably better options in this list.

7. Redeem for Business Checking

This option is new for 2022.

If you have a business checking account with Amex, you can redeem your points for cash. You'll get 0.8 CPP, so 10,000 points would come out to $800. These points are considered rebates instead of income, so you're not taxed on them. 

So if you have a lot of points, cashing out your business checking account through your Business Platinum might be a better option. (More about this below)

8. Gift Cards

Gift cards come in different types, and your redemption value varies. Then again, there are many 1 CPP options with less variance, which is not too bad.

It may not be the best redemption method for your Amex points because it has additional hoops to jump through.

The Best Amex Membership Rewards Redemption Methods

9. Upgrade Your Seat

With Upgrade with Points, you can bid on seat upgrades at over 20 participating airlines using your Membership Rewards points. This is a convenient option if you are worried about cramped seats on long flights. 

It might make more sense to upgrade your seat with the actual card and earn more points because there are higher-value options to redeem your points. However, membership rewards here are worth at least 1 CPP depending on how you use them.

If you value your seat on the plane, you might like this option.

10. Book Flights Via Amex Portal and Hotels Via Amex FHR

This is a great option for the avid traveler.

Compared to other companies, you can get a decent rate on your points. You can expect to redeem 1 CPP with flights and hotels if you book it through the Amex Portal.

But if you have the Chase Sapphire Reserve, you could get 1.5 CPP when you book through their own portal.

With this option, you can get an elevated value for your points, whether it is flights, and pay yourself back.

11. Business Checking Account with Business Platinum

This is a better option than the 7th option mentioned above. 

Instead of $800 per 100,000 points, you can get a better rate of 1 CPP. That comes out to $1,000 per 100,000 points. You must have the Amex Business Platinum card, though.

If you run a large business, that might be enough to offset the annual fee, but you still need to do the math.

12. Morgan Stanley Cash Out

If you own a Morgan Stanley brokerage account, this might be useful.

It's similar to a business checking account using your business platinum but on a more personal card side.

If you own the Platinum Card from American Express Morgan Stanley edition, you can cash out your points to your brokerage account at 1 CPP.

The points can be cashed out anywhere once they reach your brokerage account. 

Though, you might want to consider these things first before you use this option:

  1. To get the Morgan Stanley Platinum Card, you need to be approved.
  2. You must have a Morgan Stanley brokerage account to apply for this card. Among the easiest ones to go for is Morgan Stanley Access Investing, which only requires $5,000 to open and charges 0.35% per year on investments.
  3. The Morgan Stanley Platinum Card has an annual fee of $695.

I made a blog post about this before and how to waive the annual fee. You can learn more about it here: https://www.asksebby.com/guides/waive-amex-platinum-annual-fee 

13. Charles Schwab Cash Out

You can transfer M.R. points at 1.1 CPP to your brokerage account with the Platinum Card from American Express Charles Schwab. So if you're looking to redeem for cash, this might be the best option. 

However, as with any other Amex Platinum cards, there are a few things you need to consider:

  • Again, you need to be approved to qualify for the Schwab Platinum Card.
  • A Schwab brokerage account (either your own or a trust you oversee) or an IRA at Schwab (not managed by an independent investment advisor) is required to apply for the card. The eligibility rules can change at any time.
  • Amex reserves the right to cancel your American Express Platinum Card® for Schwab if you do not maintain a Schwab account.
  • Currently, the Schwab Platinum Card annual fee is $695.

14. Using Amex Business Gold Card's Rebate Feature

If you have a Business Gold, you can get a 25% rebate when you book an eligible flight.

So, if you use 100,000 points to cover a $1,000 flight, you'll get 25,000 points back. That means you used only 75,000 points for a $1,000 purchase, which works out to a rate of 1.33 CPP.

The maximum rebate is 250,000 points, so you wouldn't want to redeem more than 1 million.

15. Using Amex Business Platinum Card's Rebate Feature

Platinum Business cardholders can redeem M.R. points for travel and get a 35% rebate when they use their card for either first class or business class travel or flights with the airline of their choice (via the travel incidental credit).

That means if you spend 100,000 points for a $1,000 flight, you'll get 35,000 points back. Considering the 35% points rebate, the effective value is 1.54 CPP.

This is your best bet if you're looking for a simple travel redemption. The maximum rebate here is 1 million points per year, so you wouldn't want to redeem more than 2.85 million.

16. Using Amex Business Centurion Card's Rebate Feature

This is the same for the two previous options, but even better!

You can redeem your points with Business Centurion for a 50% rebate. As you know, spending 100,000 points for a $1,000 flight would get you 50,000 points back. 

With the rebate, you can effectively get 2 CPP, the highest rate we've discussed.

On top of that, there is no maximum rebate. However, the personal Centurion card does not offer flight rebates.

17. Transferring Points to Amex's Airline or Hotel Partners

Finally, you can transfer your points to American Express airline and hotel partners.

The rate here can be up to 10 CPP, but it can generally fluctuate or come out to about 2 or 3 CPP when you get through all the transferring. There are a lot of nuances to this one. 

But for avid travelers, this might be a decent option for you.

Overall Thoughts

American Express points can be redeemed in many ways, so it's important to know which one gives you the most value.

While you can use them for merchandise or shopping with Amazon, they don't provide good value.

Most people will get the best value from their points by transferring them to airline or hotel partners or using your Amex business card.

Ultimately, it all depends on what kind of travel you're looking for and how much work you're willing to put in. Spend some time comparing the cash cost via Amex Travel to the points cost if you transfer to a partner to see which one will save you the most money.

YouTube Video

Watch this video to find out how to get the most out of your Amex points:


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How to Use Chase Pay Yourself Back Feature: Step-by-Step Guide

Starting May 31, 2020, Chase added a new temporary benefit for Chase Sapphire Preferred® Card  and Chase Sapphire Reserve® members to “Pay Yourself Back.”

Note: The “Pay Yourself Back” feature is not available to the no annual fee Chase Sapphire card.

How Pay Yourself Back Works

The Pay Yourself Back Program lets Chase Sapphire Preferred and Sapphire Reserve cardholders redeem Ultimate Rewards to offset select category purchases at a favorable rate.

  • Chase Sapphire Preferred: 1.25 cents per point
  • Chase Sapphire Reserve: 1.50 cents per point

Pay Yourself Back Categories:

  • Restaurants
  • Grocery stores (including take out and eligible delivery services)
  • Home improvement stores
  • Select charitable organizations
  • The following charitable organizations are currently eligible for Pay Yourself Back: American Red Cross, Equal Justice Initiative, Feeding America, Habitat for Humanity, International Medical Corporation, Leadership Conference Education Fund, NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund, National Urban League, Thurgood Marshall College Fund, United  Negro College Fund, United Way, and World Central Kitchen.

The current promotion is valid through September 30, 2020, but it’s possible that it may be extended due to uncertain times.

[ March 30 Update ] Pay Yourself Back is extended until Sept 30, 2021.

How to Use Pay Yourself Back: Step-by-Step Guide

1. Log in to your online Chase account

Sign into your online Chase account and navigate to the Ultimate Rewards tab located on the bottom of the left column.

2. Select your Chase Sapphire Preferred or Sapphire Reserve card

Select the card you’d like to access. If you have multiple Ultimate Reward earning cards, you can choose to pool points to the Sapphire card to redeem.

In our example, we choose the Chase Sapphire Reserve.

3. Select the “Pay Yourself Back” menu option located in the left menu column

Navigate to the left hand column and select the “Pay Yourself Back” menu item. Clicking the main promotional banner also works, as seen in the screenshot below.

4. Pay Yourself Back

The current categories for pay yourself back are: restaurant and grocery stores (including take out and eligible delivery services), home improvement stores, and select charitable organizations.

5. Choose the purchases to Pay Yourself Back

After each purChase posts, you have 90 days to pay yourself back. Check the respective box to select the purChase.

6. Set your amount

Enter the dollar amount you’d like to receive as a statement credit by using some or all of your available Ultimate Rewards points. The Chase Sapphire Preferred redemption rate is 1.25 cents per point, and the Sapphire Reserve is 1.50 cents per point.

After setting the cash value, click “Confirm & Submit” to redeem!

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Best Chase Ultimate Rewards Transfer Partners

One of the main benefits of Chase Ultimate Rewards points is that you can transfer them out to partners if you have the Chase Sapphire Preferred, Chase Sapphire Reserve, or the Chase Ink Preferred.

You can view credit card offers by going to the "Credit Card Offers" tab. Find offers for the respective cards in "Travel Rewards Credit Cards" and "Business Credit Cards." You don't have to use our links, but we're grateful when you do. Thank you for supporting AskSebby!

Chase Ultimate Rewards transfer at a rate of 1:1. On average, you can get up to two cents per point when you use transfer partners.

If you're looking for the most value possible, then airline partners are the way to go for first class redemption. This also works well for last minute flights.

VIA CHASE ULTIMATE REWARDS PORTAL

The way I redeem points for "best value" is hotels because everyone in your travel group can benefit.

For example, if I transfer my Ultimate Rewards points to United:

  • United Polaris (US to Asia) is 70k one-way, per person
  • 70k Chase points => 70k United points

On the other hand, if I transferred my Ultimate Rewards points to Hyatt:

  • Hyatt Category 7 (top tier) is 30k, per night.
  • 30k Chase points => 30k Hyatt points.

For the cost of a round trip United Polaris flight to Asia, I can get four nights at a top tier Hyatt property.

Examples:

  • Park Hyatt: NYC, Paris-Vendome, Tokyo, Sydney
  • Hyatt Residence: Maui, Big Sur, Lake Tahoe, Aspen

IHG is not an ideal transfer partner because of the cost of the points, and you typically need more points for a redemption.

In my experience, Hyatt has the best redemption value for transfer partners. The Category 1 Hyatt properties start at 5,000 Hyatt points.

Category 1 = 5,000 Hyatt points / 5,000 Chase UR points

  • $100 a night / 5k points = 2 cents per point
  • $200 a night / 5k points = 4 CPP

Check out the video below for more redemption ideas.

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Bank of America Enforces New 2/3/4 Rule for Credit Card Approvals
Bank of America

Bank of America is enforcing new rules on credit card applications. H/t Doctor of Credit.

Bank of America 2/3/4 Rule

  • Max of 2 Bank of America cards every 2 months
  • Max of 3 Bank of America cards every 12 months (1 year)
  • Max of 4 Bank of America cards every 24 months (2 years)

*months considered on a rolling basis

For example, if you apply for a card on August 1, 2017, that's considered card #1. If you apply for another card on September 1, 2017, then that's card #2.

If you try to apply for another card from September 2-30, then it will result in an automatic rejection because of the "2 cards in 2 months" rule.

If you apply on October 1, 2017 (or afterward), then the application will pass the "2 cards in 2 months" rule, but it's still subject to the "3 in 12 months" and "4 in 24 months" rules.

Bank of America is implementing the 2/3/4 rule in two different ways:

  1. Automatic rejection if you're disqualified by a rule
  2. Bank of America will approve the application and send the card to you, but you'll receive an "approved in error" message at a future date, and they'll automatically cancel your card

When the application is "approved in error," the card won't show up on your credit report.

Bank of America's rules doesn't seem too bad compared to other banks. The rules only apply to Bank of America branded cards. Once you factor in Bank of America's card selection, most people won't have to worry about the rules because they don't have the best travel credit cards.

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How to Keep Track of Your Credit Cards
Credit Cards 101

Note: Some of the offers/products mentioned below are no longer available.

If you’re like me and you have more than 10 credit cards, it can take up a lot of mental bandwidth. Remembering to use travel credits, minimum spend dates, and free anniversary nights can get confusing, especially if you have more than one premium travel card.

We created a spreadsheet to help you track the welcome bonus, statement dates, and travel credits for your cards.

Sebby’s Credit Card Tracker

Download a copy of the tracker here: http://bit.ly/2TLM4tF

The tracker currently has sample data in it, so feel free to fill in your own cards and dates.

The main sheet contains the primary tracker and the second sheet that says “Amex Gold” is an example of how to keep track of spending for a specific card.

In the “Amex Gold” sheet, I copy and pasted the line items from my credit card statement and to calculate how much spend was on the card.  The “yes” represents spend I intend to keep, and the blank lines indicate that I might return the item. This total spend amount is also reflected on the “main” sheet under the column “spend confirmed.”

Feel free to create different sheets for each of the cards you have to keep track of minimum spend.

Welcome Bonus

Most cards typically have a three month period to spend a certain amount to earn the welcome bonus. It’s safe to assume that the clock starts on the day you apply, and not the day you’re approved or receive the physical card.

If you have any doubts, be sure to send the bank a message to confirm the dates.

For cards that have annual fees, I wouldn’t count the annual fee or travel credits towards minimum spend. It would be unfortunate not to earn the bonus by a few hundred dollars.

Payments

If you’re someone who doesn’t like using auto-pay, then the payments section is ideal to keep track of all the card statement dates.

Pro-tip: I recommend changing all your card statements to close on the same date to keep it simple. I usually change my statements to be issued on the 1st / 2nd or 15th / 16th.

For example, you can send a secured message and request that all your Chase card statements close on the first of the month.

Free Nights

If you have multiple cards that offer a free night, it’s ideal to note the certificate expiration dates, so you don’t accidentally miss out.

Under the details, you can note the maximum point or category rewards the certificates can be redeemed for.

The “Days Left” column will get more green as the expiration date nears as a reminder to use the certificates.

Travel Credits

Most premium travel cards come with some travel credit. Under “Credit Type” you can list if it’s a hotel resort credit, airline fee credit, or any other type.

Any other credits like the $100 Global Entry credit can be listed under “Other Credit.”

Watch the video below for complete instructions on how to use the tracker.  


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How to Avoid a Financial Review from American Express
American Express

What leads to an American Express financial review? I've talked about my experience with a financial review in the past.

What is a financial review?

A financial review is a risk minimization tactic by Amex to make sure you don't max out your cards and run away. Their goal is that you don't default on payments by having too much debt and not pay it off.

When you're under financial review, they'll freeze all of your accounts, and you'll need to send in documents about your income. They will request tax returns and bank statements. What they're looking for is to make sure the income you reported on the application is true.

The process typically takes 2-3 weeks, and you're assigned a specialist to talk to. Even if you contact customer service, you will not be able to talk to anyone except for the specialist.

If you don't send in the requested information, they will shut down all of your accounts. Even if you're worried about failing the review, you should still send in the documentation because they're going to either shut down the accounts or set a lower credit limit.

What factors trigger a financial review?

Clicking the "Spending Power" button often

If you click the "spending power" button more than three times a day, it will trigger a financial review. The idea is if you have a big purChase coming up, you can check if the transaction will be approved.

For me, this is what triggered a review. I entered $20,000 and then $30,000 and $50,000. Surprisingly, they all said it would be approved. On Amex's side, this raised a red flag because I just received my charge card.

The lesson here is: Don't play with the "Spending Power" button.

Too many large purchases in a short time span

I think this is reasonable to prevent fraudulent transactions. One thing to be careful of is if you're hitting minimum spend. For example, if you're approved for a card, and you have a $10,000 credit limit, if you spend $5,000 in the first three days, it will raise a red flag. This equates to $2,500 a day, so they're going to assume this is normal behavior since they don't have spending history on your new card.

If you take the $2,500 and multiply it by 365 days, you get a figure close to $1 million dollars. This is concerning to Amex, especially if the income you reported isn't close to $1 million.

High credit limits

If you have more than $25,000 credit limit on a credit card or a combined credit limit of $35,000, it will trigger a financial review.

Return Payments

Amex allows you to link a bank account to pay your statement balance. If you don't have a balance in your bank account to pay the balance, it will result in a return payment.

Changing income numbers

The final factor that leads to a financial review is if you change your income numbers too drastically. For example, if you apply with a $100,000 salary, and one year later, you have a $150,000 annual salary.

Amex may want to see proof of the salary increase in the form of a pay stub or tax return.  

Financial Review Outcomes

There are three possible outcomes to the financial review process:

1. Pass, everything checks out, and no further action is needed.
2. Pass, but they will decrease your credit limits.
3. Fail, they will close all your accounts.

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What Causes a Chase Shutdown & How to Avoid Chase Closing All Your Accounts
Chase

To start off with, I'm not taking any sides. My goal is to make you aware of the rules and actions that can lead to a shutdown. I'm going to list a bunch of items, and for you, some of these actions may seem reasonable, but  Chase is within its right to cancel their relationship with you. This is called a non-satisfactory relationship.

When a non-satisfactory relationship occurs, all of your cards and accounts are closed.  Chase will typically mail you a check for the balance in your account.

After this happens, some people may be able to reopen accounts after a few years. In certain circumstances, they will send a message saying you're rejected because of a previous non-satisfactory relationship.

For most people reading this blog, you'll be fine unless you're doing something shady/illegal. Most shutdowns happen because they're seeing unusual transactions and seen as "risky."

With that said, let's run through the list.

Reputational Risk: Be affiliated with an industry  Chase doesn't approve

Easy examples of this are gambling, adult films, as well as Bitcoin. Back in 2014, there were a few producers that worked in the adult industry and had their accounts shut down because of it.

On the Bitcoin and cryptocurrency side, especially if you're using Coinbase, my recommendation is to link it to another account that's not  Chase.

If you're someone who has large international wires, then I would avoid using  Chase because it usually triggers a financial review that can lead to a shutdown. For  Chase Private Clients, maybe that changes, but for normal people, it's seen as risky behavior.

Legal Risk: Depositing a lot of money orders

The problem with money orders is the money isn't traceable. Banks get concerned when they don't know where the money is coming from. Their biggest concern is that the money is being obtained illegally.

On the other end of the spectrum, buying a lot of Visa gift cards with your credit cards can flag your account. The main problem is that Visa gift cards are a cash equivalent, meaning you can turn it into cash if you wanted to. When you buy store branded gift cards, it's harder to liquidate.

Some credit cards know when you're buying gift cards because they receive level 3 data, meaning they can see what you're buying. A Scenario where you might want to buy store-branded gift cards is if you're close to hitting minimum spend, and you don't have any other way. Here, you can buy a gift card on Amazon if you know you're going to use it in the future.

Financial Risk: Opening too many accounts in a short period

If you're someone who's new to credit and you apply for a lot of  Chase cards in a short amount of time, this may trigger a shutdown. For example, if you received your first credit card three months ago, and you apply for 6  Chase cards in the next six months, it raises a red flag.

The way to lower the risk profile is to lower your credit limits. Again, you're seen as risky because you have a thin credit profile with a ton of credit.

I'm not sure why, but after your third or fourth  Chase card, they start to give you high credit limits.

Financial Risk: Credit piggybacking

Another thing that may cause a shutdown is if you do credit piggybacking. This is when you add people to your credit cards as an authorized user when they don't have a purpose of being there. The person typically isn't a family member or in the same household.

The main thing  Chase is concerned about is you're selling your credit cards as a service to help them improve their credit.

If you do want to help your significant other out, I think that's reasonable. Just be sure the mailing address is the same household.

Legal Risk: Lawsuits against  Chase

This is obvious, but suing  Chase is a bad idea. On the other hand, suing someone else is seen as a reputational risk because it can affect their other relationships with other companies.

Legal Risk: Large cash deposits

Large cash deposits are also a red flag because it leaves them wondering about the source of the money. The benefit of a check or a wire is that they can track the origin or the money. With cash, they don't know.

Reputational Risk: Selling your Ultimate Reward Points

Selling your UR points can trigger a shutdown. If you do want to transfer your points to family members, ideally they live in the same household and have the same last name.

Bottomline

If you review the list, most of the actions can be avoided. The only ones that can't are the reputational risk — so if you work in an industry they don't approve of, or if you end up suing someone they don't approve.

My recommendation is to be cautious of your transactions and try to see it from the bank's point of view.

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My First Amex: Which Charge Card or Credit Card Should You Get?
American Express

American Express offers a wide range of charge cards and credit cards. Charge cards technically don't have a set spending limit, and you must pay them in full each month. Credit cards can be core Amex cards or co-branded cards, and you can carry a balance (although we do frown upon that; pay your cards off each month).

With all the options, which product is the best "first Amex"?

I recommend getting an American Express card AFTER you've finished obtaining all the  Chase credit cards on your wish list due to the 5/24 rule. By the time you finish with  Chase cards, you should have a solid credit foundation that will let you apply for premium cards.

People who are not currently American Express members have a higher likelihood to get targeted for increased signup bonuses like the 100,000 point Amex Platinum offer via CardMatch.

My first Amex card was the Amex EveryDay card, and I regret not going for the Amex Platinum first since I lost out on the additional 40,000 points.

Amex Platinum (as of 2018)

  • Normal offer: 60,000 MR points*
  • Targeted offer: 100,000
  • Difference: 40,000
  • *MR = Membership Rewards

You can be targeted for the 100k offer via CardMatch even if you're already a customer, just less likely.

My Credit Journey Recommendation

The following is my credit journey recommendation. American Express falls into step 4: choose your own adventure.

1. Student or secured (Card #1)

[let age for 12 months]

2.  Chase Freedom/CFU (#2)

[let age for 1-3 months]

3. Finish off 5/24 (#3-5)

4. "Chose your own adventure"

Value of Membership Rewards Points

Membership Rewards points can be worth 0.6-2.0+ cents per point (CPP) depending on how you redeem them.

Redeeming MR points:

  • 0.6 CPP = cash back
  • 1 CPP = travel
  • 1.25 CPP = cash back (only via Amex Plat Schwab)
  • 2+ CPP = transfer partners

The main questions you need to ask yourself are:

1. Do you travel?

2. Do you want the Amex Plat Schwab?

The Charles Schwab Amex Platinum lets you redeem MR points for cash back at a rate of 1.25 CPP.

How much are 40k MR points worth?

If you miss out on the 100k Amex Platinum offer, how much is the opportunity cost worth?

40k MR opportunity cost

a) Cash back

  • 40k * 1 CPP = $400

b) Travel (low)

  • 40k * 1 CPP = $400

c) Travel (high)

  • 40k * 2 CPP = $800

At a minimum, you're missing out on $400 in opportunity cost. If you utilize transfer partners for travel, you could miss out on $800.

Doesn't having Amex EveryDay make it easier to get approved for the Platinum?

The short answer is no. I've seen plenty of people get approved for the Amex Platinum as their first Amex card.

The main question you need to ask is if one hard inquiry is worth $400 to $800?

Maybe if you're mortgage hunting, in which case you should already have a minimum card base of 3-5 cards set up.

In some cases, it might make sense for to get the Amex EveryDay card. Amex EveryDay is great for:

  1. Supermarket spend (ideally 2+ CPP use case)
  2. Keeping MR points alive
  3. If you "need" an Amex card "right now" and:
  4. Want to travel in the future
  5. Can't get the Amex Platinum due to min spend / high annual fee

Exceptions

The exception for not getting the Amex Platinum first is if you fly on Delta often or you stay at Hilton properties often.

Exceptions list:

1. Amex Delta Gold

  • Lots of domestic flights and checked bags savings are $400-$800 (i.e., worth losing out on 40k MR)

2. Amex Hilton Ascend

  • Need Gold status for work stays. Depending on # of stays, benefits can obviously add up.
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What to Do If You Get Rejected for a Chase Credit Card
Chase

What to Do If You Get Rejected for a Chase Credit Card

Have you ever applied for a credit card online and didn't instantly get approved? The first thing you need to check is if you were rejected or if they're still making a decision by calling the reconsideration line. A lot of people who aren't automatically approved assume they've been rejected.

If you're not instantly approved for a card, call the automated status line immediately to check the status of your application. The number may change in the future. h/t Doctor of Credit for the most updated list of recon numbers.

Reconsideration line phone number: 888-270-2127

Once you make the call, they're going to give you a message. If it says they'll let you know within 30 days, it means Chase has not processed the application yet. However, if the message says two weeks, this typically means you're approved. If it says 7-10 days, then it typically means you were rejected for the card.

Important note: these are based on phone messages and not email communication.

If you have the 7-10 day message, this likely means you were rejected. You can either wait for a letter or immediately call the reconsideration line to see if they will approve you. Before calling the reconsideration line, there are two rules you need to be aware of:

1. Chase 5/24 - if you opened more than five credit card accounts within the past 24 months, you'll automatically be rejected.
2. Chase 2/30 - if you have more than two applications within the past 30 days, Chase will not approve you.

Reconsideration Line

When you call the reconsideration line, you're trying to convince the person on the other line to approve the application. You're usually speaking to a credit analyst, so be sure to call during business hours. These calls can vary drastically depending on what your credit profile looks like.

For example, my friend called the reconsideration line after applying for two Southwest credit cards on the same day and had to explain that they were aiming for Companion Pass. After explaining why they wanted the card, the analyst approved the card.

Again, depending on the specific reason the application is under review, your mileage may vary.

Another scenario is that Chase typically issues a total credit limit equivalent to half of your income. You may have to reallocate or lower the credit limits on some cards to get approved for a new card.  

If you go through the reconsideration process and they still don't approve you, it might be worth hanging up and trying again a few hours or days later.

One other factor to consider is that if you are relatively new to credit, it's hard to get approved for travel cards like the Chase Sapphire Preferred or the Chase Sapphire Reserve. If you get rejected, the strategy would be to build a relationship with Chase by getting a Chase Freedom for 3-9 months before applying for a higher tier card.  

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How to Avoid Credit Card Shutdowns and Financial Reviews (Amex, Discover, Chase)
Credit Cards 101

Credit card issuers reserve the right to close accounts if they suspect any risky or suspicious activity. Most issuers usually send an income verification request before closing your accounts.

In this post, we’ll cover the income verification process and how to avoid a financial review.

What’s a Form 4506-T, and why do some credit issuers request it?

A Form 4506-T is a request for a transcript of your tax return. It allows the financial institution or credit issuer to look into your IRS tax returns. Most lenders use the form to verify the self-reported income portion of your application to your tax return.

American Express and Discover are the two main credit issuers who routinely request Form 4506-T to verify your income.

Discover

In Summer 2019, Discover started sending out an IRS Consent Form 4506-T to people who requested new credit products, credit limit increases, unusual purchase activity, and high credit limits.

This is concerning because existing Discover customers are also receiving a Form 4506-T when they do one of the actions mentioned above.

American Express

American Express usually conducts a financial review of your account when they request a Form 4506-T.

One of the easiest ways to trigger a financial review is to “Check Spending Power” on your charge cards.

I tried playing with the “Check Spending Power” button a few years ago out of curiosity, and I immediately received a financial review.

Another possible trigger for an Amex financial review is having too much credit limit across all your Amex accounts. The limit may vary based on your income, but the general rule is that you don’t want to exceed $35,000 across all Amex accounts. Your mileage may vary.

When American Express conducts a financial review, any questions or inquiries get routed to the financial review department. A financial review can range from 1-3 weeks.

Depending on what Amex uncovers during the financial review, your account may remain unchanged, or they may adjust your credit limits accordingly.

Chase and Other Credit Issuers

Chase doesn’t usually request a Form 4506-T; my guess is because they’re focused on the prime market, and they’re also a bank. Most Chase credit cardholders are likely to have a bank account or assets with them as well.

Citi and Barclays routinely request a Form 4506-T if they see any suspicious activity.

In my experience, Citi requested a Form 4506-T when I opened a Citi Prestige and another Citi card within two months. I forgot about sending in the form, and it had no impact on my accounts. Citi continued to approve me for future cards.

What should you do if you receive a Form 4506-T?

If you receive a Form 4506-T, you should fill it in to avoid potential account shutdowns.

For Discover and American Express, you risk getting all of your accounts shutdown if you don’t comply with the request. This is not optimal because it will negatively impact your credit score, especially if some of your oldest accounts are with them.

Getting blacklisted from the credit issuers are another possibility.

How to minimize your chances of a financial review or Form 4506-T request

  1. Avoid any unusual purchase behavior. Sometimes this can’t be avoided, but it’s worth calling and letting the issuer know that you have a large upcoming purchase.
  2. Keep your credit card utilization low. If you have high utilization, I suggest “pay as you go” before the statement closes. Pay off your balance in advance so the bank doesn’t report a high utilization rate.
  3. Have a reasonable credit limit range. Don’t request a higher credit limit if you don’t need it.

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How to Status Match to Caesars Rewards Diamond Status
Travel

As someone who visits Las Vegas at least twice a year, I hate paying resort fees. There have been some instances where the resort fees are more than the base room rate. One way to get resort fees waived at Ceasars properties is to have Diamond status with them. Here’s how to status match to Caesars Rewards Diamond status.

Important Update: As of March 2022, the Caesars Diamond Status match is discontinued

Caesars Rewards Diamond Status Benefits

A few Diamond status perks that stand out to me:

  • Gift up to 5,000 Reward Credits to a friend (limit of two transfers per year)
  • 15% Advertised room rate
  • 2 Complimentary show tickets every month at Caesars properties
  • No resort fees
  • Guaranteed Room with 72 hours notice in Atlantic City and Las Vegas
  • Access to Diamond Lounges
  • Priority lines at hotel check-in, restaurants, casino cages and the Rewards Center
  • Complimentary stay at Atlantis, Paradise Island in The Bahamas

See more benefits here: caesars.com/myrewards/benefits-overview

How to Match to Rewards Diamond Status

Step 1: Request a status match for Wyndham Rewards Diamond Status

The fastest way to earn status is through select credit cards, as opposed to staying 50+ nights at the hotel group. Most of the hotel credit cards that give you automatic status have an annual fee, but they also offer a free anniversary night each year.

If you use the free anniversary night wisely, you can get more value than the annual fee.

For example:

  • Paying = $100 annual fee
  • Getting = “free night” you can use at hotels ranging from $50 to $200.

There are a few credit cards that give you automatic status that will match to Wyndham Rewards Diamond status, but my preference is IHG because it also matches to higher tiers at other programs like Best Western. We’ll use IHG in our example.

See the other options that match over to Diamond by clicking on “other hotel loyalty programs.”

  1. The IHG Rewards Club Premier credit card gives you automatic Platinum Elite status. You can request a status match to the Wyndham hotel group to get Diamond status (at Wyndham).
  2. Register for a Wyndham Rewards account.
  3. You’ll need to show proof that you have status at the competing hotel
  4. Fill out a status match form here: https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-rewards/status-match

Initially, I sent screenshots of my accounts for the status match, and after one week, I had to follow up. It was only after I sent pictures of my hotel membership cards did they approve the Diamond status in less than 24 hours.

Other cards with automatic status that match to Wyndham Diamond status:

  • The Platinum Card® from American Express = Hilton Gold
  • Hilton Honors American Express Surpass® Card= Hilton Gold
  • Hilton Honors American Express  Aspire = Hilton Diamond
  • The Platinum Card® from American Express = Marriott Gold
  • SPG Luxury = Marriott Gold
  • Chase Ritz-Carlton = Marriott Gold

Once you complete the status match, the Wyndham status lasts for 90 days. The plan is to request a status match to right away.

Step 2: Request a status match to Rewards

  1. Create a Caesars Rewards account
  2. Request a status match to Caesars Rewards Diamond status by linking your Wyndham account here: caesars.com/myrewards/partners/wyndham_resorts

Timing is key since once you match over to Caesars Rewards, you’ll have status until the next January 31.
Example Match dates:

  • Dec 15, 2020 => Caesars Rewards ends Jan 31, 2021 (1.5 months)
  • Jan 15, 2021 => Caesars Rewards ends Jan 31, 2022 (0.5 months)
  • Feb 15, 2021 => Caesars Rewards ends Jan 31, 2020 (11.5 months)

If you want Caesars Rewards status for 2021 to 2022...

  • “Status A” match to Wyndham on Dec 15, 2020
  • You keep Wyndham status until March 15, 2021
  • Wyndham match to Caesars Rewards on Feb 1, 2021
  • You keep Caesars Rewards status until Jan 31, 2022

It’s unclear if you can double dip status matches. For example, if you request a status match before Jan 31, and then another one afterward. Let me know in the comments below if you’ve been able to do this.

Step 3: Visit a Caesars Property

Important: To ACTIVATE the benefits and offers for Diamond status, you must present your drivers license or government issued ID at any Caesars property. Offers may take 2-4 weeks to appear in your account after activation.

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How to Waive the Amex Platinum $695 Annual Fee
American Express

The Platinum Card from American Express has a hefty $695 annual fee that might deter people from applying. However, there are a few ways to get the Platinum card for less, and potentially down to $0 depending on your situation.

1. Active Duty: Military Lending Act (MLA)

The Military Lending Act (MLA) waives the annual fees for personal American Express cards, but not business cards.

MLA is not to be confused with Servicemembers Civil Relief Act (SCRA), which no longer qualifies for waived fees.

Under MLA, you can get the Platinum (vanilla), Platinum Schwab, or Platinum  Morgan Stanley -- or all 3 -- and the fees should be waived.

Before canceling the Platinum cards, you would want a solid foundation of cards with no annual fee downgrade paths to preserve your credit history. Once you stop qualifying for MLA, your annual fees will hit upon renewal. The Platinum cards can only be product changed to the American Express Gold Card and the American Express Green Cards, which both have annual fees.

2. Retention Offers

For non-service members, retention offers are a strategy to recoup some of the annual fee costs.

A retention offer is a targeted reward that’s typically offered to cardmembers who are up for renewal. The intention is to give you an incentive to retain you as a customer.

A few guidelines before asking for a retention offer:

  1. Don’t cancel/downgrade a card within 12 months of accepting a retention offer. This can get you banned from American Express for “abusing rewards.”
  2. You can’t get a retention offer RIGHT away — for some reason people think they can get a retention offer immediately after opening a card (or even 3 months after opening). Don’t do this. At a minimum, wait until the 11-month mark to ask for a retention offer.
  3. The general rule is that you can get a retention offer every other year for a card. Your mileage may vary.

Check out retention offer data points from our community here: https://www.asksebby.com/retention-offers

View our retention offer script in this post: https://www.asksebby.com/blog/how-to-get-credit-card-retention-offers

3. Amex Platinum Charles Schwab Strategy

The Platinum Card has a few variations, including a co-branded Charles Schwab card. It offers the same benefits as the vanilla Platinum Card, but also gives you the ability to cash out Membership Rewards at a 1.25 cents per point rate via Schwab.

You’ll need to have a lot of money with Charles Schwab to qualify for the annual fee credits:

  • Get a $100 statement credit if you have qualifying Schwab holdings are  >$250,000
  • Get a $200 statement credit if it's > $1 million

As a reminder, these statement credits only apply if you have the Schwab version of the Platinum card. If you want the Schwab Platinum, you’ll need to apply for it directly (and have a Schwab account).

Find the Schwab Platinum application here: https://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/investing/accounts_products/credit_cards

You can NOT product change from a regular “vanilla” Platinum to a Schwab Platinum. You also can’t product change from the Amex Schwab Investor Card since it’s a limit based credit card vs. “no limit.”

4. Amex Platinum Morgan Stanley Strategy

What if you make good money, but aren't at the Schwab level? Enter the co-branded Amex Platinum Morgan Stanley card.

To qualify for the Morgan Stanley Platinum, you’ll need a Morgan Stanley account. The Access Investing is the easiest pick given the reasonable requirement of $5,000. You are paying 35 basis points (0.35%), but this can be mitigated.

I opened an Access Investing account last year with $5,000, and my account is doing fine. Disclaimer: your mileage may vary. My results might not represent the average account holder.

Why is the Morgan Stanley Platinum card interesting? You can get the whole $695 annual fee waived if you meet the qualifying requirements.

  • In the past, you needed to get:
  • Access Investing $5,000 => Morgan Stanley Platinum => Premier Cash Management
  • Morgan Stanley will issue a debit card
  • If you spent $100,000 on the debit card, then you would get a $695 engagement bonus

$100,000 of spend on a debit card is definitely an aggressive number, but maybe possible if you've been playing poker with friends or paying a ton of taxes.

View the Premier Cash Management terms here: https://www.morganstanley.com/wealth-disclosures/premiercashmanagementtermsconditions_2018.pdf

Amex Platinum Morgan Stanley Strategy

In early 2020, Morgan Stanley replaced the Premier Cash Management program with CashPlus. If you still have a Premier Cash Management account, you might be able to request a transition to the CashPlus if it’s a better fit.

The Platinum CashPlus will give you a $695 engagement bonus, which effectively pays for the Morgan Stanley Platinum card annual fee if you have:

  1. $5,000 in monthly deposits of any amount, and
  2. $25,000 in average daily balance

For most people, the $5,000 in monthly deposits might be easy, but the $25,000 balance might not be worth it since the account doesn’t earn interest.

You’ll need to do the math to see if it’s worth parking $25,000 in the account to get $695 in value. It’s effectively the equivalent to 2.2% APY, which is a competitive rate given the current economic environment.

For people who already have Morgan Stanley Platinum card, there's a big problem. On page 7 of the terms, it says that they will only pay an annual  engagement bonus to NEW cards opened in connection with the Platinum CashPlus  account.

View the Platinum CashPlus account terms here: https://www.morganstanley.com/wealth-disclosures/cashplusaccountdisclosurestatement.pdf  

"You will not receive an Annual Engagement Bonus for an American Express  Platinum card not issued in connection with your Platinum CashPlus  Account."

Since I have an existing Morgan Stanley Platinum card, I wouldn’t be eligible for the CashPlus Annual Engagement Bonus. There’s mixed comments in the YouTube video we published, so please leave a data point/comment if it works for existing cardholders.

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Hilton Upgrade/Downgrade Strategy To Maximize Points and Free Weekend Nights
American Express

Hilton points are valuable if you’re looking to take an aspirational trip to somewhere like the Maldives or Bora Bora. The Hilton portfolio of hotels includes the Conrad, Waldorf Astoria, and the Curio Collection.

The Hilton Honors American Express Aspire Card and the Hilton Honors American Express Surpass® Card  (after $15k spend) offer free weekend night certificates that you can use at almost any property.

Terms apply to American Express benefits and offers. Enrollment may be required for select American Express benefits and offers. Visit americanexpress.com to learn more.

Welcome Offer and Eligibility

American Express explicitly states in their credit card terms that you are not eligible for a bonus if you have or had a card.

“Welcome offer not available to applicants who have or have had this Card. We may also consider the number of American Express Cards you have opened and closed as well as other factors in making a decision on your welcome offer eligibility.”

The rule is not based on whether or not you received the welcome offer, but if you have or have had the specific card.

The Hilton Honors, Hilton Surpass, and Hilton Aspire cards are considered three different products. If you received a bonus for the Hilton Honors, you could still get a bonus for the Hilton Surpass.

Another example is if you opened the Hilton Surpass card, closed it after a week, and didn’t receive the bonus. You do not qualify for a new welcome offer because you had the card.

Being an authorized user on someone’s card does not disqualify you from getting the bonus yourself.

Upgrade Offers

Upgrade offers usually appear after having a card for at least 12 months. Due to the CARD Act, credit issuers cannot change the annual fee before the 12-month mark.

Another important note is that upgrade offers usually come with a minimum spend requirement.

Important: If you accept an upgrade offer, you must keep the card open for at least 12 months. Per the terms and conditions of the offer, Amex reserves the right to claw back the points or blacklist you.

Optimal Strategy

The optimal strategy for accumulating Hilton points and free night certificates is to get each Hilton product and upgrade them.

Triple Play Scenario

If you’re planning a vacation for 2021 or you’re looking to accumulate as many points and free nights as possible, the following timeline examples are ideal.

>> Feb 2020:

  1. Hilton Honors = Intro Bonus #1
  2. Hilton Surpass = Intro Bonus #2

>> Jun 2020:

       3. Aspire = Intro Bonus #3

Total = 3x Intro Bonus

>> Feb 2021:

  1. Hilton Honors —> Hilton Surpass #2 = Upgrade Bonus #1
  2. Hilton Surpass #1 —> Hilton Aspire #2 = Upgrade Bonus #2

>> March 2021:

        3. Hilton Surpass #2 —> Hilton Aspire #2 = Upgrade Bonus #3

Total = 3x Intro Bonus + 3x Upgrade Bonus

Big Upcoming Trip or Life Event Scenario

If you’re planning a vacation this year and looking to redeem points and certificates right away, then I recommend getting the Hilton Surpass and the Aspire for the weekend certificates.

>> Right now:

Hilton Surpass = Intro Bonus + weekend certificate after $15,000 in spend

>> Soon after:

Hilton Aspire = Intro Bonus + weekend night certificate

Edge Cases

If you want to be super aggressive, you could technically get all three Hilton products (Honors, Surpass, Aspire), and downgrade them all after 12 months to the no annual fee Hilton Honors.

You could then upgrade the cards to a Surpass, and then a second wave to Aspire cards. However, this scenario is not realistic for most people since the upgrade offers usually have a spend requirement.

Most people will not be able to spend $9,000 in three months to upgrade to the Surpass (x3), and then another $9,000 to upgrade to the Aspire (x3).

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